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The After Show
In the latest episode of The After Show, hosts dive into Shawn Kanungo's thought-provoking session at the Fleet Safety Council
KEY TAKEAWAYS (an AI-Output with Hallucinations)
AI AGENTS & AGentic workflows
Atlas - AI Browser by OpenAI
n8n - Workflow automation
Cursor - Coding agent
Comet by Perplexity - Best Agentic Browser - browse the internet with AI and get stuff done
Lindy - Build an AI agent - great for AI automation
LLM
OpenAI’s Deep Research - Absolutely the best research tool out there right now
Manus - Most comprehensive AI agent in my opinion
Claude Skills - Claude Skills is the best skills agent
Grok 4 - Equivalent to o3 from ChatGPT - awesome for X data
Gemini 2.5 - Incredible LLM
Text-to-App
Lovable - Build any app with agentic reasoning (best at front-end)
v0 by Vercel - Text-to-Webpage (really good front-end)
Replit - Idea-to-App (best for full app)
Text-to-IMAGE/VIDEO
Midjourney - Best for pictures and video
HeyGen - AI Video Avatar
Runway - Text to Video
Google’s Nano Banana - Best Image Generator
Research & other
NotebookLM - Research and the two AI podcast hosts that you see above :)
Google AI Studio - Real-time AI co-presence
Clay - AI Outbound Sales | Generating lists of emails and sending cold outreach
Figjam - Whiteboarding Ideas | Brainstorming | Organizing
Briefing: Innovation, AI, and the Agentic Era
Executive Summary
This document synthesizes the core themes from a presentation delivered by innovation strategist Shawn Kanungo to the Fleet Safety Council. The central argument is that the current AI revolution, specifically the emerging "agentic era," represents an unprecedented opportunity that demands a fundamental mindset shift away from legacy thinking toward bold, human-centric innovation. Kanungo asserts that while AI offers powerful tools for efficiency and analysis, the ultimate competitive advantage lies in strategically reintroducing "friction" and prioritizing "deep care" to build trust and create memorable experiences.
The presentation urges professionals to overcome their fear of AI by actively engaging with the technology, positing that fear stems from inaction. The key takeaways call for a new strategic approach: "build with the end in mind" by using AI-generated outputs as a starting point, not a final solution. Ultimately, the path forward requires individuals and organizations to "unlearn" old habits, embrace a "rookie" mindset, and recognize that the most potent strategies are rooted in amplifying human strengths and fostering a culture of profound care.
Part 1: The Nature of Disruption and the AI Revolution
Disruption Begins as a "Joke"
A core theme of the presentation is that transformative change is consistently underestimated at its inception. Disruptive technologies throughout history have initially been dismissed or viewed as jokes.
• Historical Examples:
◦ The Internet: Initial widespread reluctance to trust it with financial information.
◦ Uber: Public skepticism about getting into a stranger's car.
◦ The First Truck (1896): Gottlieb Daimler's invention was considered a joke; he sold no trucks in Germany and had to go to England to find his first buyer.
The central conclusion is that this pattern persists, and it is critical not to disregard innovative thinkers or disruptive ideas. As stated in the presentation, "Disruption always looks like a joke until the joke is really on us."
The Shift from Generative to Agentic AI
The current AI revolution is not overhyped but is evolving into a significantly more powerful phase.
• Generative AI Era (2022-2025): This initial phase, sparked by ChatGPT, focused primarily on content creation, such as refining emails or summarizing conversations. The value was limited, with students "cheating on their essays" cited as a primary beneficiary cohort.
• The Agentic Era (2025 and beyond): This next phase is described as being "100 to a thousandx" more valuable than the generative era. It is centered on "agency"—the power to act and get things done. This involves AI moving from simple content generation to executing complex workflows and tasks autonomously. True AI agents are described as being "always on," working 24/7 without sleep.
Part 2: Practical AI Applications and Demonstrations
The presentation highlighted several real-world examples and tools to demonstrate the practical power of the agentic era, asserting that in 2025, "the most dangerous skill in the world is just coming up with an idea."
Application Category
Example / Tool
Description
Rapid Application Development
Loveable
Used to create a functional, Netflix-style onboarding platform for a company called Truck Wright, complete with both a front-end and back-end interface.
24/7 AI Agents
Custom IHSA Agent
An "always on" AI agent was built for the IHSA to provide immediate answers to safety questions, such as cargo security tips, with the ability to translate its responses into other languages like Japanese.
Data Analysis & Safety
Claude (by Anthropic)
Used to generate 10,000 lines of "synthetic data"—fake but realistic trucking route information. A second AI was then used to analyze this dataset to identify anomalies and unusual patterns. It is argued that it will become "safety malpractice to not leverage AI" as a secondary check.
Workflow Automation
Lindy
An AI agent builder was used to create a system that automates sending notifications to employees via WhatsApp, demonstrating how non-technical users can build sophisticated agentic systems.
Advanced Content Creation
Claude Skills & Sora
A leaked document detailing the video production strategy of YouTuber Mr. Beast was used to create a "Claude Skill." This specialized AI skill was then leveraged to generate a video concept tying together the Toronto Blue Jays and AI, which was subsequently visualized using the text-to-video tool Sora.
Part 3: AI's Impact on Learning, Skills, and Mindset
The presentation emphasized that AI's greatest impact may be on how humans learn and approach work, requiring a significant shift in mindset.
Removing Barriers to Learning
AI fundamentally changes the learning process by removing social and psychological barriers.
• Eliminating Judgment: Unlike humans, "AI never judges you." It can be asked "dumb questions" repeatedly without consequence, removing the pride, shame, and status concerns that often inhibit learning. This concept was illustrated with the story of a U.S. Army bomb tech who was discouraged by his human peers from asking questions for fear of appearing incompetent.
• Lowering the "Transaction Cost of Curiosity": AI makes it easier to explore and learn without fear of social repercussions.
• Overcoming Language Barriers: AI can train people, such as immigrant truck drivers, in their native languages, expanding the potential workforce and improving comprehension.
A New Strategic Approach: Build with the End in Mind
A new methodology for project execution was proposed to leverage AI's capabilities for a 10x improvement.
• Old Model ("Begin with the end in mind"): Start with a vision and work towards it through traditional planning, production, and revision cycles.
• New Model ("Build with the end in mind"): Begin by using generative AI to create 100 different versions of the final output (e.g., reports, campaigns, videos). This collection of AI-generated assets becomes the starting point for the creative process, allowing teams to align on a vision more quickly and execute faster. AI is positioned as a powerful starting point, but not the final solution.
Redefining Power and Overcoming Fear
The value of knowledge is diminishing in an era where AI copilots are universally available.
• The New Definition of Power: Power is no longer "knowledge." It is now defined by human qualities: being "hungry, people that are bold, people that can innovate."
• Confronting Fear: Fear of AI stems from a lack of engagement. Every individual who immerses themselves in the technology becomes empowered, not afraid. The core advice is to "Work scared until you become scary. Work scared until you become dangerous."
Part 4: The Human Imperative in an AI World
While championing AI, the presentation strongly argued that the ultimate advantage lies in doubling down on distinctly human qualities.
The Strategic Value of Friction
In a world relentlessly optimized for seamless efficiency, the deliberate introduction of friction becomes a competitive advantage.
• The "F Word" is Friction: The presentation calls for bringing back friction to make experiences more "meaningful and magical and memorable."
• Two Paths to Success: Organizations in the future will win by being either hyper-efficient (e.g., McDonald's) or deeply experience-focused (e.g., Four Seasons, Hermès). The danger is being caught in the "black hole of mediocrity" in the middle.
• Psychological Innovation: Innovation is described as 90% psychology and 10% technology. Small, thoughtful gestures that manage expectations and build trust (like Uber's "finding a driver" screen) are highlighted as powerful psychological innovations.
The Ultimate Strategy: Deep Care
The most powerful strategy for success and innovation is not technological, but deeply human.
• Trust is Paramount: In a world of deep fakes and synthetic relationships, trust is the ultimate currency. Trust is built upon two pillars: "incredibly reliable technology and people that are deeply cared for."
• The Dubai Hotel Anecdote: A story was shared about a hotel in Dubai where an employee offered a gentle knock on the door as a third-level wake-up call. This employee's dedication was traced back to the hotel's culture of care, which included inviting all employees' parents for a weekend stay. This profound level of care for staff translated directly into exceptional service.
• Care as a Foundation: The conclusion is that the greatest business strategy is to "deeply care" about employees, who in turn will care deeply for customers. This creates the psychological safety necessary for a true culture of innovation.
The Importance of Ignoring AI
While AI is a powerful force, human intuition and defiance of conventional wisdom remain supreme.
• AI as the Second Most Powerful Force: The presentation posits that AI is the second most powerful force ever created. The first is "our ability to ignore it."
• The Wright Brothers Analogy: If the Wright brothers had access to AI in the late 1800s, it would have analyzed all existing data and concluded that human flight was impossible, potentially discouraging their efforts. Human innovation often requires breaking from the status quo.
Part 5: Call to Action: Disrupt Yourself
The final message was a direct challenge to the audience to embrace personal and organizational reinvention.
• From Systems to People: For a century, organizations have been designed around the efficiency of the assembly line. The new opportunity is to design organizations around people, amplifying their unique skills and passions (their "personal moat").
• The "100 to Zero" Challenge: While growth (going from 0 to 100) is exciting, the more challenging and rewarding task is reinvention (going from 100 to zero). This requires a willingness to "unlearn" what made one successful and "become a rookie again."
• Overcoming Nostalgia: Leaders must actively let go of their romanticism for past successes to make way for new approaches.
• The True Catalyst for Change: The greatest catalyst for change is not an inspiring speech, but "putting in the work" and building evidence through daily action.
• The Final Message: "The most dangerous person in the room is a person who is most afraid, yet bold enough to move forward.".
The AI Revolution:
Generative AI's Potential: Shawn highlights how AI, especially generative AI, is transforming work by democratizing it. He draws parallels with the internet's impact on knowledge, emphasizing that AI will revolutionize how tasks are performed.
Generative AI Era (2023-2024)
• Shawn recaps how ChatGPT launched in late 2022 and captured the world’s attention.
• 2023 and 2024 became the era of “generative AI,” with widespread use of tools like ChatGPT for writing, image generation, deep fakes, etc.
Transition to 2025: The Agentic Era
• The speaker asserts that the “generative AI revolution” is now “over.”
• We’re entering a new wave in 2025, referred to as the “agentic” revolution, or the agentic era.
• Key premise: AI agents will be the next huge disruptor, providing 10x to 1000x the value of generative AI alone.
Why Agents?
• An agent is software that can autonomously perform tasks on behalf of humans—mimicking what human employees might do but never sleeping or stopping.
• Nvidia’s CEO Jensen Huang repeatedly referenced “agents” in his CES talk, highlighting their importance.
Agents as the New Conversational Layer
• In the ’90s, businesses needed websites.
• In the 2000s-2010s, businesses needed apps and social media channels.
• In 2025 and beyond, agents will become a critical “conversational layer” for organizations (internally and externally).
• Companies will race to build their own brand-specific AI agents, and the challenge will be how to differentiate those agents.
AI marks "the end of trust" as it becomes harder to distinguish between AI-generated and human-created content. Shawn warns about the erosion of trust due to AI's ability to create indistinguishable deep fakes and simulations.
Shift from Knowledge Workers to Value Creators: As AI becomes more embedded in businesses, the most valuable jobs will no longer be knowledge-based but will center around creating value in new and innovative ways. Leaders must focus on being innovators, not just managing efficiencies
We live in an age of "infinite leverage" where individuals can do more with less using various tools and resources.
AI as a Starting Point: The concept "the end is now the beginning" highlights a shift in how we approach creative and development processes. Rather than seeing AI-generated outputs as final products, they are considered starting points that inspire and guide further human creativity.
AI is the next communication layer: Just like the internet, websites, and apps, AI agents will become ubiquitous, transforming how we interact with clients and information. Kanungo predicts, "By the end of next year, every company in this room will have one AI agent or multiple or hundreds."
Iterative Creation: By generating numerous initial ideas or drafts using AI, the creative process becomes iterative. This allows for a broad exploration of possibilities before honing in on the final deliverable through human refinement and creativity.
Rapid Prototyping: The example of generating a hundred websites, apps, or analyses with the help of AI emphasizes the efficiency and speed with which initial concepts can be developed. This rapid prototyping accelerates the innovation cycle.
Creative Catalyst: AI serves as a catalyst for innovation by providing a multitude of starting points. It breaks the traditional linear progression of project development and encourages a more dynamic and flexible approach
AI-Driven Efficiency: Tools like Midjourney can generate multiple creative options for advertisements in seconds, providing companies with the flexibility to test and optimize their campaigns efficiently
The Concept of DEEPLY CARING:
Reliability and genuine care are foundational to building trust, both in technology and human interactions.
Exceptional service goes beyond basic expectations, creating memorable experiences that differentiate a business.
Personalized attention and proactive problem-solving significantly enhance customer satisfaction and loyalty.
Investing in employee well-being and growth fosters a positive work culture, leading to increased job satisfaction and performance.
Recognizing and valuing employees' contributions, even extending to their families, can create strong emotional connections to the workplace.
Empowerment is a two-pronged approach: providing cutting-edge tools (like AI) and demonstrating deep care for individuals.
Genuine care is a strategic business advantage, driving both customer retention and employee innovation.
Creating a culture of care can transform service delivery, employee engagement, and ultimately, business outcomes.
The ripple effect of care extends beyond immediate interactions, influencing long-term relationships with both customers and employees.
Innovation thrives in environments where individuals feel valued, supported, and equipped with the right tools.
Care for Employees = Care for Customers: Organizations that deeply care for their employees tend to deliver superior customer service, as employee satisfaction directly translates to customer trust and satisfaction
The Importance of Human-Centered Leadership
People Over Projects: A leadership philosophy that prioritizes people, such as letting employees take vacations despite client demands, fosters loyalty and long-term value for the business.
High-Agency Cultures: Empowering people by combining technological tools with people-centric care creates "high-agency" employees who are proactive, innovative, and committed to the company’s mission.
The Concept of Friction:
He advocates for maintaining trust through human-centric, meaningful, and memorable experiences.
Bringing Back Friction: In an increasingly frictionless world, Shawn argues for the value of friction in creating deeper, more authentic connections. He stresses that community management companies, unlike tech companies, thrive on trust and relationships, not just efficiency.
In a frictionless world, we need more friction.
Companies will win by being either extremely frictionless or extremely human - the middle ground is "the black hole of mediocrity."
Are you willing to look like a joke?
Shawn suggests that true innovation requires embracing uncertainty and discomfort - what he calls "the darkness." This idea challenges the common view that innovation is solely about achieving specific outcomes or results.
By focusing on identity rather than outcomes, Kanungo seems to be advocating for a mindset shift. He's suggesting that being an innovator is more about who you are and how you approach challenges, rather than just what you produce. This approach emphasizes qualities like curiosity, resilience, and willingness to take risks.
The question "Are you willing to be the innovator?" is provocative. It asks whether one is ready to:
Embrace uncertainty and potential failure
Challenge established norms and ways of thinking
Cultivate a mindset of continuous learning and experimentation
Persist in the face of setbacks and criticism
This perspective on innovation as an identity rather than just a process or outcome can be empowering. It suggests that anyone can be an innovator if they're willing to adopt certain attitudes and behaviors, regardless of their specific role or industry.
Disruption and Self-Disruption:
Leaders need to be willing to disrupt themselves.
Innovation isn't about thinking, it's about acting. It involves deliberately exposing yourself to challenges and suffering.
Small experiments and actions are key to starting the disruption process.
Embracing Innovation's Challenges
The Willingness to Look Foolish
True innovation requires embracing uncertainty and discomfort ("the darkness")
Focuses on identity rather than just outcomes
Requires qualities like curiosity, resilience, and risk-taking
Innovation as Universal Responsibility
Not a separate department but a mindset for everyone
Continuously asking how to improve
The Most Valuable Question
"What will you start today that scares you?"
Begins changing your story and challenging limits
Self-Disruption
The greatest challenge isn't scaling up (0 to 100)
It's having the courage to disrupt yourself and what's working (100 to 0)
Beyond Mountains
Success shouldn't breed complacency
There are always new heights after reaching what seemed like the summit
To Reach 5×, You Can’t Think 5 % Bigger—You Have to Go to Zero
Take any core process—finance approvals, R&D cycles, vessel maintenance—and ask: If we rebuilt this from scratch with today’s tech, what vanishes? What automates? What now demands more human warmth? Going “to zero” prevents incrementalism from smothering breakthroughs.
The Most Dangerous Person in the Room
It’s not the algorithm or the credentialed expert—it’s the individual who feels the fear, yet moves anyway. Bold + scared beats brilliant + stuck. Be that person, hire that person, partner with that person, and the future tips in your favor.
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