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In the latest episode of The After Show, hosts dive into Shawn Kanungo's thought-provoking session at Builder

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This presentation focuses on the transformative power of artificial intelligence and the necessity of personal disruption within the healthcare and biotechnology sectors. The speaker argues that we are entering an "agentic era" where software shifts from mere content generation to autonomously executing complex tasks. To remain competitive, organizations must embrace synthetic data and "build with the end in mind," using AI to automate routine labor while prioritizing human strengths. However, the talk warns that as technology makes life more efficient, trust becomes the rarest asset, necessitating "crafted friction" to maintain meaningful human connections. Ultimately, leaders are encouraged to overcome their fears by becoming proficient in these tools, ensuring they foster a culture deeply committed to both innovation and care.

KEY TAKEAWAYS (an AI-Output with Hallucinations)

MY #1 USED AI TOOL

  • Wispr Flow - I don’t type anymore, I just voice everything

AI AGENTS & AGentic workflows

  • Claude Code / Claude Cowork - The best AI General Agent today

  • Atlas - AI Browser by OpenAI

  • n8n - Workflow automation

  • Cursor - Coding agent

  • Comet by Perplexity - Best Agentic Browser - browse the internet with AI and get stuff done

  • Lindy - Build an AI agent - great for AI automation

LLM

  • Gemini 3 - The Best LLM on the planet right now

  • OpenAI’s Deep Research - Absolutely the best research tool out there right now

  • Manus - Most comprehensive AI agent in my opinion

  • Claude Skills - Claude Skills is the best skills agent - this allows to be more deterministic with your agents.

  • Grok 4 - Equivalent to o3 from ChatGPT - awesome for X data

Text-to-App

  • Lovable - Build any app with agentic reasoning (best at front-end)

  • v0 by Vercel - Text-to-Webpage (really good front-end)

  • Replit - Idea-to-App (best for full app)

Text-to-IMAGE/VIDEO

Research & other

  • NotebookLM - Research and the two AI podcast hosts that you see above :)

  • Google AI Studio - Real-time AI co-presence

  • Clay - AI Outbound Sales | Generating lists of emails and sending cold outreach

Briefing: Innovation, AI, and the Agentic Era

Executive Summary

The current technological landscape is undergoing a fundamental shift from the era of content creation to the Agentic Revolution. While previous iterations of Artificial Intelligence (AI) focused on summarizing information and generating content, the new era is defined by "software that gets stuff done." For organizations and professionals, particularly in the mortgage and knowledge-work sectors, this transition necessitates a move from being "systems of record" to "systems of action."

The critical takeaways for leaders are:

The Rise of High Agency: Software agents can now act autonomously, providing 24/7 consistency and execution that surpasses human capability in specific technical domains.

Strategic Binary Positioning: Success in a radicalized market requires choosing between being "frictionless" (automated, on-demand) or "human-centric" (meaningful, high-touch friction). The middle ground is a "black hole of mediocrity."

Identity Disruption: True innovation requires "going from 100 to 0"—detaching from past successes and credentials to become a "rookie" in a world where knowledge is no longer the primary source of power.

The Human Edge: As technology becomes a commodity, deeply personalized care and high-agency orchestration become the ultimate competitive advantages.

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The Transition to the Agentic Era

The evolution of AI has moved beyond simple Large Language Model (LLM) workflows. In 2026, the conversation has pivoted toward agency—the ability for software to action and execute rather than just think or summarize.

Defining the Spectrum of Agency

The distinction between traditional automation and the agentic revolution is defined by the level of autonomous action:

Feature

LLM Workflow (Traditional AI)

True Agent (Agentic Revolution)

Primary Function

Summarization, content creation, emails.

Execution, problem-solving, autonomous action.

Consistency

High, but limited to predefined recipes.

Absolute; operates 24/7 on standard operating procedures.

Example

Zoom summarizing a conversation.

Claude Code (Anthropic) solving complex engineering tasks.

Human Role

Providing prompts and editing.

Orchestrating and defining outcomes.

The Power of Specialized Agents

Modern tools like Claude Code (formerly Claude Cowork) allow non-technical professionals to leverage the power of a "10 X financial analyst" or a "team of 10 people" at their fingertips. The source notes that these agents can solve distributed orchestrator problems in an hour that major engineering teams (like those at Google) struggle to resolve over years.

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Practical Applications in Knowledge Work

The agentic revolution fundamentally alters how professionals, such as mortgage brokers and underwriters, approach their daily operations.

Personalization and the "AI Stack"

Traditional CRMs often fail because they are not designed for the specific needs or "lone wolf" nature of high-performing individuals. The new era allows for a fundamentally personalized software stack:

Voice-Enabled Tools: Using platforms like Gemini and Loveable, professionals can create voice-enabled CRMs that prioritize natural interaction over typing.

Synthetic Data: Professionals can experiment with AI tools safely by using "synthetic data"—fake but realistic information—to test processes without risking confidential client data.

Case Study: The "Ninja" Mortgage Agent

By spending significant time (up to 90%) on planning and process design, a professional can create a specialized AI agent that:

• Analyzes fictional or real applicant situations instantly.

• Simultaneously generates complex mortgage Excel documents and Word reports.

• Maintains total consistency in follow-ups and standard operating procedures (SOPs), which is cited as the most important skill set for brokers.

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Strategic Positioning: Friction vs. Frictionless

In a world of radical change, baseline consumer expectations are rising. Everything is becoming on-demand, seamless, and transactional. Organizations must decide how they will meet these expectations.

The Winning Archetypes

The future marketplace will be dominated by two types of organizations:

1. Frictionless Organizations: These entities prioritize efficiency and "the button." They turn everything into a seamless transaction (e.g., Amazon, Uber, McDonald's).

2. Hostile/High-Friction Organizations: These entities deliberately "slow things down" to create magic, craftsmanship, and human connection. They prioritize "The F-Word"—Friction. Examples include The Four Seasons (personalized service) and Hermès (craftsmanship and exclusivity).

The Black Hole of Mediocrity

Organizations that fail to choose a side—those that are neither incredibly efficient nor deeply human—will fall into a "black hole of mediocrity." The goal is to avoid the middle and either automate entirely or lean into the "humanity" of the interaction.

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The New Definition of Power and Labor

The traditional adage that "knowledge is power" is no longer applicable when every individual has access to multiple "geniuses" (ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok) in their pocket.

High Agency as the Primary Skill

As AI takes over technical tasks, the most valuable human trait is High Agency. A high-agency person is:

• An architect of their own outcomes.

• Someone who does not ask for permission but orchestrates tools to get things done.

• An orchestrator who can execute using the productivity of AI.

The Impact on Careers

AI will take jobs, specifically those "humans would never be able to do," such as 24/7 audits of every transaction or real-time reconciliation of thousands of invoices. While this reimagines every career from accounting to law, it also expands capabilities. The danger is not the technology itself, but the failure to "build the muscle" of using it.

"Work scared until you become scary. Work scared until you become dangerous."

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Organizational Transformation: The Agentic Enterprise

The 20th-century organization was built around the assembly line—a system of processing technology where people were fitted into silos (the "CRM person," the "accountant"). The Agentic Enterprise flips this model.

Designing Around Unique Gifts: Because software is now personalized, organizations can be designed around human strengths. If a broker loves people but hates back-end work, the agent handles the back end.

The "100 to 0" Challenge: Most organizations know how to go from 0 to 100 (growth). The hardest task is going from 100 to 0 (disruption). This requires detaching from identity, status, and ego to become a "rookie" again.

Starting from Zero: To innovate, professionals must take one process and ask: "If we started today with current tools, what would we eliminate, automate, or humanize?" This approach leads to 10X improvements rather than marginal gains.

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The Enduring Value of Human Care

Despite the advancement of agents, human care remains a primary competitive advantage. The source highlights that "the experience is the brand."

The "AI vs. Al" Paradigm

A story from a resort illustrates the two things that will win in the future:

AI: Incredibly automated, frictionless technology (the "alarm clock").

Al (Humanity): The person who "gently knocks on the door" or "holds your hand" through a process.

Deep Care as Strategy

Caring for employees and clients is described as the greatest strategy in the world. As noted by industry leaders, "Caring is my competitive advantage." In the mortgage industry and beyond, the ultimate value lies in being an "agent" of deep care, ensuring that clients feel seen and protected in an increasingly transactional, "button-press" world.

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